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Beta talents

Plan with the revised October 15 trees. The beta has closed, and this partial snapshot is not verified for launch. Some tooltip values still lack verified level and scaling context, including talents without a warning. Recheck those values in game when it opens. Saved links preserve their original talents and points.

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Data, sources & what is still uncertain

Community beta data · 2026-10-25. October 15 trees and final official corrections are included, plus three reported 70450 changes: Champion of the Light, Missile Barrage and Amplify Curse. Base values still come from 70425; unresolved scaling and tooltip conflicts remain. Original client-build reporting is not an independent in-game test. October 21 adds Counterattack’s flat damage and Wild Growth’s party radius; Wild Growth healing and other numerical conflicts remain unresolved. The October 20 Mage hotfix positions, Elemental Precision ranks and Piercing Ice removal are included from the admitted community lineage. Frost Warding and Missile Barrage hotfix effects are also included. Ice Barrier now includes the October 20 Frost-damage bonuses and explicitly identifies its rank-1 base before scaling. Champion of the Light’s 20/40/60% ranks are now traced to the exact October 20 client hotfix; the earlier 10/20/30% values describe the unhotfixed curve. Vindication’s AP reduction scales with level; the exact level and rounding behind its displayed community values remain unresolved. Other numerical differences remain unresolved; this is still partial reconciliation. Mutilate’s rank-1 flat bonus is corrected to 17.25 from the exact client tooltip formula. Remaining unresolved values include talents without an individual warning; no full beta parity or independent combat test is claimed. Seven cast-time protection tooltips now use the October 23 community export; this limited text reconciliation does not establish current-game or launch parity.

Blizzard’s October 15 notes establish the announced changes. Later server-hotfix reporting is kept separately dated. The 70450 comparison also used WoW Forever data (CC BY 4.0) and the author’s Forever Guides talent table. Their incomplete or conflicting records were not substituted for verified talents.

October 20 Mage effect hotfixes: exact ranks for Frost Warding and Missile Barrage from The Forever Era’s client reconstruction, with the WoW Classic Forever changelog for context. These are reported client data, not an independent ForeverAtlas in-game test.

Data: Talents Forever · CC BY 4.0 · adapted by ForeverAtlas. Icons © Blizzard.

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How do points and prerequisites work?

Choose a level from 10 to 60. You get 11 points at level 20 and 51 at level 60. Each row needs five more points in earlier rows. Arrows show which talents you must complete first.

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What happens to my older builds?

Older links and saved builds keep their original talents. Choose Use latest site snapshot to start a blank plan with the site’s latest partial beta data. Your saved build stays unchanged.